One simple question and there is no answer:MHFM,St.Benedict Centers,SSPX

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One simple question and there is no answer:MHFM,St.Benedict Centers,SSPX

Post by Lionel A on Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:10 am

One simple question and there is no answer:MHFM,St.Benedict Centers,SSPX
On Dec16,2012 I asked Peter and Michael Dimond, sedevacantists of the Most Holy Family Monastery(MHFM) to answer just one question.(1)

Do we know any one saved with the baptism of desire?
They still will not answer it. There is also no reply from Fr.Leonard Feeney's communities in the USA, to the same question, asked months back.It has been as long now and there is no formal reply to the letter I e-mailed to the District Superior of the SSPX in Italy. Though priests with the SSPX community in Albano,Italy with whom I have spoken to in Rome, have acknowledged there is no visible case of the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance.

One simple question and they will not formally answer it!

If there is no visible salvation then there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus .Then it means Vatican Council II is traditional on the issue of other religions and Christian communities.LG 16 is not the usual exception it is made out to be of AG 7 which says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation. It would also then mean that it was the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing who was in error and not Fr.Leonard Feeney.
So if they honestly answered this question they would have to review their apologetics, or a part of it, especially on Vatican Council II.

Vatican Council II is a break with the past only if there is visible- to- us cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance etc.

Vatican Council II is a continuity with the past if those saved in invincible ignorance etc are invisible for us.

There is no ambiguity or two positions.
Since one of the two views is irrational and contrary to the Principle of Non Contradiction.

So rationally we are left with only the traditional interpretation of the Council.

-Lionel Andrades
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Dec.16,2012

I would like to quote you. Please answer this question it is related to your book and the subject you write on often.

Do we know any one saved with the baptism of desire?

(In other words can we see someone on earth saved with the baptism of desire?



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Re: One simple question and there is no answer:MHFM,St.Benedict Centers,SSPX

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:06 am

The answer is, "No." I think that they feel that they have already answered that, which is why they may be ignoring you, Lionel. I think that at this point you should call Brother Andre up on the phone. Be polite and be "to the point"; Brother Andre is very busy these days.

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