Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith cannot fault the Society of St.Pius X for 'rejecting Vatican Council II'

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Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith cannot fault the Society of St.Pius X for 'rejecting Vatican Council II'

Post by Lionel A on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:42 am


The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican cannot fault the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) for 'rejecting Vatican Council II' since the SSPX accepts the Council as a historical reality but only rejects an interpretation of the Council with the dead-man-walking premise.This makes the Council modernist.

If the CDF clarifies the issue of the dead man premise being used, the SSPX could accept Vatican Council II - and then the Paulist Fathers in Rome would reject it.

Recently Bishop Charles Morerod prohibited the SSPX from offering Mass in the churches in his diocese in Switzerland since for him the issue was 'doctrinal.' He wants the SSPX to accept that there is known salvation outside the Church. The dead are visible walking on the streets of Swtzerland, saved in invincible ignorance, the seeds of the word, imperfect communion with the church etc. Invisible cases are visible to him. Salvation in Heaven is visible to him on earth.These cases are exceptions to the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities.

So for him, when the SSPX is ready to acknowledge that Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) is an exception to Ad Gentes 7 (all need faith and baptism for salvation) then it will be doctrinally correct. Bishop Morerod is the former Rector of the Angelicum University,Rome where this irrationality is still being taught.With this irrationality the SSPX is sure to get access to the Churches in Switzerland, to offer Mass.

If the CDF faults the SSPX it will be for political reasons. It will be for not rubber stamping an interpretation of the Council which says that the dead saved and now in Heaven are generally visible to us on earth.This is the irrationality they want the priests of the SSPX to accept before they offer Mass.

The CDF should be correcting Bishop Charles Morerod and the bishop of Calgary, Bishop Frederick Henry who assume that the dead are visible and so the Catechism and Vatican Council II contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes 7.They both are publicly critical of the Society of St.Pius X .-Lionel Andrades

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Post by Admin on Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:02 am

Lionel,

Ask His Excellency, Bishop Charles Morerod, why the Catholic Church has never canonized any of these "invisible members"?

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Post by Lionel A on Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:01 pm

February 17, 2013
Bishop Charles Morerod indicates the magisterium made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office: the dead can be physically seen

Fr.Aldo Rossi, Prior, SSPX,Albano,Italy instead says cases of the dead saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are not physically visible to us.The Dominican bishop in Switzerland indicates, unintentionally, that the magisterium of the Catholic Church made a mistake.He was the moderator of a thesis on outside the church there is no salvation, when he was the Rector of the Angelicum University, Rome. The student is now Fr.Francesco Giordano, a young Italian priest who offers the Traditional Latin Rite Mass in Rome.

They both assumed that the Letter of the Holy Office 'condemned' Fr.Leonard Feeney and they assumed that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance was physically visible to us to be exceptions to the dogma as understood traditionally.

We now know that the baptism of desire etc are irrelevant to the dogma since these cases are explicit only for God.
Bishop Moreord repeated the error of known exceptions to the dogma in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.They were Christianity and the World Religions 1997 and the other one was on Limbo,The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized.
According to Fr.Aldo Rossi these cases are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The SSPX priest would be saying that Bishop Morerod made a doctrinal error.

Interestingly Bishop Morerod has prohibited the SSPX from using Churches in his diocese and he says the issue is 'doctrinal'.

He wants the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II in which being saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church(UR ), seeds of the Word, elements of sanctification etc are physically visible and so are exceptions to the SSPX traditional position on other religions and Christian communities.

For Fr.Aldo Rossi they are not exceptions since the deceased saved are not visible to us.

For Bishop Morerod the dead saved and who are now in Heaven are visible to us.If they were not then the Letter of the Holy Office would not have made a mistake. Since they Letter says that there are visible exceptions to Fr.Leonard Feeney's literal interpretation of the dogma, the Letter is saying that the dead are visible.

The magisterium made a mistake for the Dominican bishop.-Lionel Andrades

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